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mr.bluebird
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Posted - 03/16/2011 :  4:34:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit mr.bluebird's Homepage  Reply with Quote
why are cng buses becomming popular and are people considering buying them ?? any info would help
Edited by - mr.bluebird on 03/16/2011 4:37:00 PM

bluebirdvision
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Posted - 03/16/2011 :  5:21:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Compressed Natural gas is clean burning, and costs less to buy.

I really don't have any experience with CNG in NY. I'd rather have a Propane powered bus... if I couldn't have a Cummins diesel
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Tatum
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Posted - 03/16/2011 :  7:50:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wonder when we'll see the first hydrogen fuel cell powered bus?
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bwest
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Posted - 03/17/2011 :  05:29:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bluebirdvision

Compressed Natural gas is clean burning, and costs less to buy.

I really don't have any experience with CNG in NY. I'd rather have a Propane powered bus... if I couldn't have a Cummins diesel


Do they cost less to buy? I know the fueling infastructure is pricey. I also don't know of many refueling stations around either. (at least in my area)
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JRob
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Posted - 03/17/2011 :  07:26:06 AM  Show Profile  Visit JRob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
2 words......Grant Money

CNG units are eligible for grant reimbursement from state and federal sources.

Generally speaking, CNG is cleaner than diesel but the engines are somewhat less efficient so mpg is not as good as diesel.
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JustinB
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Posted - 03/17/2011 :  09:14:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The CA fleets are seeing similar mpg to diesel out of their Cummins powered CNG fleets.

Key components to makiing it work:
- Grant Capture to offset the significant bus purchase $ increase over diesel.
- Community Support - will they like it & support it in today's political atmoshphere?
- Infrastructure - Work with you local utility
- Range - Where else can you fuel while away from your regular routes?
- Flexibility - Keep a portion of the fleet diesel to cover trip buses.
I may not know the answer but I can usually find who does.
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