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#1busman
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 Posted - 12/16/2010 : 11:52:38 AM
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| In the last couple of years we are experiencing air filters failing on the 2006 Blue Bird Visions with the front air intake system. They fill up with snow get saturated. The filter tends to defrom and lets the engine not recieve filtered air causing extensive internal engine damange if not caught in time. Some filters have totally collaspsed. The filters provided by Blue Bird have failed prematuraly with the glue strip delaminating and causing the air filter this is on filters being in service for about three months.Technicians are trained to follow up the manufacture recommendations on servicing their product. We are using a filter minder which Blue Bird has put in a poor location. I was wondering if anyone else has been experiencing these problems and what you did to correct them. Click on link to see pics. http://picasaweb.google.com/penner510/2006BlueBirdVisionSnowPackedAirFilters# |
Edited by - #1busman on 01/21/2011 12:10:36 PM
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Wolf0r
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USA
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Posted - 12/20/2010 : 1:14:30 PM
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| What does your Bluebird rep say? I haven't experienced this yet as we haven't got much snow. Is the snow coming in through the air tube? Take some photos, to show us what is happening. |
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.”
Neil deGrasse Tyson |
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bluebirdvision
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USA
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Wolf0r
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 12/20/2010 : 2:24:01 PM
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Originally posted by #1busman
Will do. New to the forum so I need to learn how to upload the pictures.
You can upload to a photobucket.com account then post the link. Photobucket is free picture hosting. |
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.”
Neil deGrasse Tyson |
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08 Thomas EF
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Posted - 12/20/2010 : 2:52:11 PM
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If by chance you have a Google account (Gmail, YouTube, etc.), you'll automatically have a Picasa Web Albums account and won't need to make a Photobucket account. Go to www.picasaweb.com and log in, you'll be able to upload picture there. Note that YouTube accounts might not be Google accounts and therefore not linked to Gmail/Web Albums.
Like Wolf (sorry, I don't know your name) said, the link goes here inside of img and /img (with brackets around img and /img) and no spaces. |
Edited by - 08 Thomas EF on 12/20/2010 2:56:52 PM |
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Thomasbus24
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USA
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Posted - 12/22/2010 : 08:51:31 AM
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| Who makes the air cleaner housing for Blue Bird? Donaldson? Might be worth talking directly to them (or whoever it is). Theres an obvious design flaw there. |
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Thomasbus24
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USA
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Posted - 12/22/2010 : 10:22:06 AM
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The fact that this memo exists indicates to me that at the very least, Bird Bird is FULLY aware that air cleaner problems exist, even though it singles out 2007+ models.
http://www.westernbus.com/user_images/file/SM1003.pdf
I'll keep digging. |
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Harrison Fire
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United States
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Posted - 12/23/2010 : 02:38:06 AM
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This happens to Freightliners too. The first batch here landed in 2000 equipped with Cummins. Mechanic tried to follow the service indicator. Dusted one. They pick up air too low - filter element stays wet, rusts out the steel screen then the paper fails. My rule is simple. Change every filter during summer service. Filters are cheap. Engines are not.
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08 Thomas EF
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Posted - 12/23/2010 : 10:44:20 AM
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^ Make you sure to change that to ".google.com" from ".goggle.com". A warning came from my antivirus trying to do that. Did you type that URL our yourself?! 
Here's another tip that might make things easier. When you view the album online, click the text in the address bar of the browser to highlight the URL, right-click, and press copy. Then right-click in the reply box and press paste.
Thanks for sharing those pictures! |
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Cal Mc
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Posted - 12/24/2010 : 11:48:14 PM
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We have had problems with premature air filter restriction on 05-07
Freightliners and 07-08 Vision buses.
Freightliner sent out new air canister covers that do not allow the air filters to sit in water and snow.
The filters on the Vision buses may pass a light test but will still be junk due to exposure to excess moisture. We have no fix for the Visions aside from frequent filter replacement.
I hate rewarding Bluebird for a poor design by buying overpriced air filters from them. Does anyone have an alternative? |
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bwest
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United States
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Posted - 01/04/2011 : 12:18:17 PM
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| Are you talking about Bus Spec number 0087782? I agree these things are over priced. What does Baldwin want for them? |
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slippert
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USA
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Posted - 01/21/2011 : 07:33:03 AM
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| I have 2 09 BB visions that use the 49519 wix # although have never had the problem you guys are having my vision's intake thru the left side of hood and we do get some snow here in central mi. but the filter # i use and housing look alot shorter the filter only measures 11 1/4 inches. don't know if pic just look bigger or BB changed housing and intake. i change filters once a year and ck every oil change in between and have never seen this problem the buses get between 30- 50,000 miles per yr. do your buses intake in the front of the hood? |
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2006 Blue Bird Vision Air Filters
