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deleon
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 Posted - 01/10/2004 : 05:36:25 AM
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| how do you know what type of buses. |
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Rich
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United States
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Posted - 01/10/2004 : 10:32:27 AM
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GMCBlueBird83
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 01/10/2004 : 1:00:39 PM
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Originally posted by deleon
how do you know what type of buses.
If you are referring to Types A, B, C, and D
there are many things to looks for but here
are the basic descriptions and pictures
I copied from my website:
Type A: Usually based on a full sized van
chassis such as the Chevy Express, GMC Savanna
or Ford Econoline although some of the larger
Type A buses are based on the Chevy/GMC 5500 or
International 3200 series medium duty trucks.
These are the lightest weight school buses allowed
by the government. They typically have seating for
less than 30 passengers but the larger ones are
approaching what one would expect of a small Type C.
Most have a traditional school bus style service door,
while others use the standard door that comes with the
van.
A typical Type A bus, a Corbeil GMC Savanna 3500
A Type A bus that uses the standard van service door, a US Bus GMC
One of the large Type A buses, A US BUS Sturdibus HD Chevrolet
Type B: These were much more popular in the
past than they are today. While most were only a bit
larger than yout typical Type A, some such as the
Thomas Vista and Ward Patriot were as large as
the Type C conventionals.
The chassis used were a mish mosh of choices from
International, GM and possible others as well.
One of the larger Type B buses, a Thomas Vista International
One of the smaller Type B buses, a Thomas Mighty Mite Chevy/GMC
Type C: By far the most popular of school buses,
these are the ones you are probably the most familier
with. Type C buses which are more commonly called
"Conventionals", are based on medium duty truck chassis.
International is the most common these days, but
Freightliner is pretty popular too. Chevy/GMC and
Ford stopped offering buses in this category over the
past few years. Dodge has been out of the game the 1970s.
A typical Type C bus, a Thomas Interntional 3800
Type D: The largest of school buses some able
to hold up to 84 passengers. These are also
referred to as "Transit Style" school buses. They
have a flat front and can be either front engine
or rear engine. Some of the older transits such as
the beloved Crown Supercoach could also be had with
an amidship(center) placed engine.
Many people have stated that these are great to drive due to the shorter wheel base that allows better maneuverability.
The most common currently used engines come from
International, Caterpillar or Cummins.
A typical front engine Type D, an Amtran International FE
A typical rear engine Type D, a Blue Bird All American RE
One of the most beloved Type D buses, the Crown Supercoach
These is a lot more that I won't get into,
but I'm sure others wouldn't mind expanding on
what I have said. I hope this helps.
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80-RE4
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 01/11/2004 : 8:42:32 PM
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Wow gmc how do you get all those pictures in your post?
Thats a nice rear engine bus (the bluebird) |
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GMCBlueBird83
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 01/12/2004 : 05:53:34 AM
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Originally posted by 96 Amtran RE
Wow gmc how do you get all those pictures in your post?
Thats a nice rear engine bus (the bluebird)
I just added the [img] codes a bunch of times. The Blue Bird All American you mentioned is a 2002 model and is part of the Palm Beach County District Schools fleet in Florida.
The 2003 All American models are the same except the A/C units do not protrude from the roof. They are CAT powered, probably the 3126 and have the Allison 2000 automatic. They are very nice buses! |
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B. Busguy33
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 01/12/2004 : 4:10:06 PM
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I just added the [img] codes a bunch of times. The Blue Bird All American you mentioned is a 2002 model and is part of the Palm Beach County District Schools fleet in Florida.
The 2003 All American models are the same except the A/C units do not protrude from the roof. They are CAT powered, probably the 3126 and have the Allison 2000 automatic. They are very nice buses!
I thought most districts in Florida (including Palm Beach) always required their buses to be spec'd with a wet-sleeve diesel engine (i.e. Cummins ISC). I would be surprised to hear they are going with the CAT engine. Although, since Blue Bird now uses the CAT C7 as their "standard" engine, perhaps this engine was chosen on their new 2003 AA REs?  |
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SchoolBusFan
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USA
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GMCBlueBird83
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 01/22/2004 : 8:13:01 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by B. Busguy33
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I just added the [img] codes a bunch of times. The Blue Bird All American you mentioned is a 2002 model and is part of the Palm Beach County District Schools fleet in Florida.
The 2003 All American models are the same except the A/C units do not protrude from the roof. They are CAT powered, probably the 3126 and have the Allison 2000 automatic. They are very nice buses!
I thought most districts in Florida (including Palm Beach) always required their buses to be spec'd with a wet-sleeve diesel engine (i.e. Cummins ISC). I would be surprised to hear they are going with the CAT engine. Although, since Blue Bird now uses the CAT C7 as their "standard" engine, perhaps this engine was chosen on their new 2003 AA REs?
You learn something new here on the forums . I didn't know about the wet sleeve requirement in FL. When I stated our BB AA's as having the CAT 3126, I was going by the sounds the engine makes. it sounds a lot like the newer GMCs and Freightliners I've heard. So maybe it is a CAT C7 unless a Cummins can be specd on the AA but I don't think it can be. |
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