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CISDbusman
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 Posted - 04/16/2003 : 08:58:15 AM
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Just read the "stop the chop" entry to case studies in this months SBF mag and was wondering who else has used the stuff? I need something like this for my bus tires as it is a 150 mile round trip to have my tires balanced. Man hours and fuel needed to get mine balanced alone should offset the cost of the product I would think. If the stuff works half as good as all the write ups I have read about while researching then it may solve a lot of my problems. Tell me/us your findings good or bad. Thanks
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slane
Active Member
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Posted - 04/16/2003 : 09:31:20 AM
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We have been using Equal for two years, we have found that in works well.
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Brad Barker
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 04/16/2003 : 9:28:18 PM
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Equal does work to some extent. There are a couple of problems that I did not like when I tried it. 1) Every time you stop the stuff falls to the bottom so when you start again it takes a little while for the wheel to get balanced again. 2) It is a mess to clean out of the tire if you do your own tire dismounting and mounting. If you run it in tubes the tube is junk after the tire is dismounted due to no way to get it out.
3) Since it falls to the bottom each time you stop, drivers will say they have an inbalance at low speeds. If you forget which tires you put it in then try to weight balance the tire, you will make it worse.
It would work best in over the road applications. I do not recommend it for stop and go.
Brad
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second.flood
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USA
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Craig Thoricht
Senior Member
USA
177 Posts |
Posted - 04/24/2003 : 02:44:20 AM
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Hello-
Brad is right on. We also tried Equal and one of the things we noticed was that not only did you have to be careful about the valve stem, but in order to get a TRUE air pressure check, you had to give the tire a shot of air to clear the valve stem out, then check the air pressure.
I'm probably whining, but that became tedious after a while.
In a related topic, several tire dealers around here [Northeast Ohio] only use Equal. They won't spend the big dollars necessary to buy and maintain wheel balancing equipment. They also say the cost of labor and workman compensation claims for working in that area are too expensive.
Craig Thoricht
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bwest
Administrator
United States
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Posted - 04/27/2011 : 7:16:13 PM
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| Ok Budster, you take a eight year old post and quote it. What's up with that??? I like the stuff too, but please what's your deal? |
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Trailboss
Senior Member
United States
196 Posts |
Posted - 04/28/2011 : 04:00:59 AM
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| I have been useing Equal for about ten years now. I only have had issues a couple of times and that turned out to be tire defects and not the Equal causing the problem. If i had a flat I just took a shop vac and cleaned it out. As far as tubes who runs tubes anymore.At low speed you don't need to ballance anyway because the forces on the tire are not that much untill You get over 40 mph. |
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L.J.D
Senior Member
United States
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 04:35:21 AM
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| In my opinion Equal is the best stuff out there for tire balance. I have a small fleet of about 20 54 passenger buses, and they are all Equal balanced. It is a little messy on the dismount, but I wash the wheels off and blow them dry. When i buy the Equal my tire guy gives me the proper valve cores,and the yellow sleeves to go on the valve stems. In the 8 years that I have been using it I have never had any problems. |
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Wolf0r
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 08:45:57 AM
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Originally posted by Brad Barker
Equal does work to some extent. There are a couple of problems that I did not like when I tried it. 1) Every time you stop the stuff falls to the bottom so when you start again it takes a little while for the wheel to get balanced again. 2) It is a mess to clean out of the tire if you do your own tire dismounting and mounting. If you run it in tubes the tube is junk after the tire is dismounted due to no way to get it out.
3) Since it falls to the bottom each time you stop, drivers will say they have an inbalance at low speeds. If you forget which tires you put it in then try to weight balance the tire, you will make it worse.
It would work best in over the road applications. I do not recommend it for stop and go.
Brad
Exactly why we don't use it. Ok for the long haul though. |
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.”
Neil deGrasse Tyson |
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slippert
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 10:14:45 AM
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| I've had some of the same bad experiences with equal in bus tires as stated above, but use to use it all the time in over the road trucks seem to work great for them |
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matts4290
Advanced Member
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 2:37:41 PM
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| Its in the steer tires on my buses, because I put it there when I changed them. I don't see the need to put it in the rear tires. |
We can't all be conventional!
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bwest
Administrator
United States
3820 Posts |
Posted - 04/28/2011 : 3:43:42 PM
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| I use it for al my tires and have no problems. I have been using it for about 8 years. (that's funny, just as old as this thread lol) |
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The Budster43
New Member
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Posted - 04/30/2011 : 08:25:38 AM
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Originally posted by second.flood
<p>We tried Equal for about two years and had problems similiar to Brad's. If you do choose to use it, make sure you install the proper valve stem cores. We are back to conventional balancing. In addition to Brad's comments I would add some rim and tire combinations will be so far out of balance Equal won't work properly ( unless the tire is dismounted and turned on the rim to even out the imbalance).<p> Scott
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The Budster43
New Member
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Posted - 04/30/2011 : 08:50:49 AM
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Originally posted by The Budster43
If anyone is interested in trying out the best tire balancing product, I would be happy to send you 2 free bottles and information on KTB...The only tire balancing product approved by the E.P.A. go to www.keeptiresbalanced.com and check out all the info....BENEFITS..
1. Instant tire balance for the life of the tire
2. Truck tires run cooler to extend tread life by reducing heat build up.
3. Increase casing retread-ability in new and retread tires.
4. Maintains air pressure-keeps bead area pliable.
5. Eliminates rust on rims.
6. Helps detect puncture, bead or valve leaks.
7. Green dye helps detect cracked wheels.
8. Works with pressure monitoring systems.
9. Lubricates for a perfect bead seat. (tires goes on true)
10.Tire changer friendly - mounting and dismounting mad easier.
11.Recap shop friendly - cleans out in seconds with wet vac.
12.WILL NOT BLOCK VALVE STEM AND WILL NOT FREEZE..
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Thomasbus24
Administrator
USA
4559 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2011 : 1:51:52 PM
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| Well...at least this spam is related to the industry. |
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Equal (internal tire balancing product)
