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Thomas00
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 Posted - 02/09/2002 : 10:30:01 PM
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I was just wondering which state have bid package... I know that Florida have it... I was wondering is this better than specing your own buses? Does it help reduce cost when specing your buses... Because it all ready there on the the state bid? Also I was wondering if Georgia have a state bid package? Thanks!
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Edited by - Thomas00 on 02/09/2002 10:37:46 PM |
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mr.dave
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 02/10/2002 : 05:48:47 AM
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It should not matter so long as the person making the bid knows what their doing. I believe the spek process for my bus was "How cheap can I get 200 of these puppies?". It would be nice to have some inteligent imput from somewhere be it state, or local.-shalom -dave
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Phil4747
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USA
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Posted - 02/10/2002 : 07:20:31 AM
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Regarding what goes on the bus, state bid doesn't make much of a difference, and from what I've heard, the FL government knows what they're doing.
It does, however, make a difference in the cost of the bus. If several hundred nearly identical buses are ordered at the same time, you get economy of scale coming into play, and each bus will actually cost less than if it were custom built with different options.
—Phil
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Blake913
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 02/10/2002 : 1:52:59 PM
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Thomas00,
Yes Georgia does have state spec reqirements that must be met in order to be approved by the Georgia State Patrol. Anything other than these specs are optional. You can obtain a list of these specs from your Transportation Director and/or your Shop Foreman. It is a yellow (ironic, huh?) book that every school system in GA must follow in order to meet the State specs.
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Thomas00
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 02/10/2002 : 2:38:29 PM
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Thanks for that informastion blake913... Hey do you know what is the state spec?
"Some people are so afraid of dying that they never being to live."
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wagonmaster
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 02/10/2002 : 4:26:24 PM
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A state bid will save a TON of money over individual districts doing their own! Our State D.O.E. puts the bid specs together, but with approval from our association membership (each district gets one vote). Our spec committee makes recommendations and the membership approves any changes, deletions, or additions. System works well, but takes some dedicated, knowledgeable people to put the specs together and keep them up to date and abreast with technology.
Try it and see!
Joe
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Phil4747
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Posted - 02/10/2002 : 4:30:47 PM
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Blake, I think he's talking about a system where the state sends out for bids on buses, and then every new bus in the state is ordered at the same time, mostly with the same options. Every stay has individual specs that must be followed, but as far as I know only FL orders every bus as one batch.
—Phil
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wagonmaster
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Posted - 02/10/2002 : 4:57:55 PM
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We don't order all the buses as one batch, just the same basic specs (there are a lot of options)and the same basic time frame. Kentucky, W.Virginia, and a couple of others buy this way in addition to Florida.
Joe
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UncleNeal
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 02/12/2002 : 06:56:10 AM
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California occasionally has state bid packages and they are usually announced by the dealer(s) who are awarded the contract(s). We usually spec our own buses depending upon the funding source, the number of buses we are purchasing at the time, and if we can "piggyback" on bids by other school districts in the area.
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BusBoy
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USA
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Posted - 02/12/2002 : 07:28:59 AM
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I think Kentucky and Tennessee is all done on a state wide bid.
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Silas J.
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 02/12/2002 : 12:54:46 PM
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I don't thnk TN has a bid package,but I'm not sure.Is there just one mf in a in a bid package? I know that BB is big here,because of there being a BB dealer (I don't think there is one for the other mf's)(Johnson City Schools has ALL Blue Birds)but there is also a lot of other choices used other than BB.
Silas J.
97-12 It will outrun your bus.
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B. Busguy33
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 02/12/2002 : 3:41:04 PM
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Is there just one mf in a in a bid package? I know that BB is big here,because of there being a BB dealer (I don't think there is one for the other mf's)(Johnson City Schools has ALL Blue Birds)but there is also a lot of other choices used other than BB.
Silas J.
97-12 It will outrun your bus.
Stop by http://geocities.com/bluebirdtwelve/
Hi Silas,
Basically all of the bus manufacturers compete with each other by submitting bids to the school district (with the complete state spec package), and the bid with the lowest $$ amount usually wins the bid. In your case, it has probably been Blue Bird, if your state has a state bid package.
Bob
(B. Busguy33)
"Blue Bird: Always flyin' high above the rest... 
Blue Bird: One of America's Best!!!  "
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catz
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USA
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Posted - 02/13/2002 : 4:35:25 PM
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In North Carolina all public school districts recieve their buses from the state. Currently my state is buying Thomas Freightliners.
The state contract for my state is listed here :
http://www.doa.state.nc.us/PandC/070c.htm#P45_469
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Brian M. Babcock
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 02/24/2002 : 12:03:26 PM
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In Ohio we do not have a state bid package. Buses are purchases by the district according to their specs. However, all buses must meet certain minimum specifications set by the OSHP before they will be awarded their ID number. Our minimum specs can be found at this address: http://www.oapt.org/ and then click on the "Topics of interest" link at the bottom of the page.
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BusBoy
Top Member
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Posted - 02/25/2002 : 6:01:47 PM
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Hey Catz,
Do you bid on buses every year? If if so who got the bid the last two years?
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BusFreak
Top Member
USA
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Posted - 02/26/2002 : 12:24:00 AM
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I am not quite as reliable a source as Catz, but I believe that North Carolina uses only Thomas Built Buses. I have been down there on many occasions, and have never seen anything but Thomas (even the oldest buses with wedge-shaped stop arms). I know that Thomas MVP ER buses were issued one or two (or both) years ago, however Freightliner seems to be what the state is getting now. Its kinda cool though seeing buses in NC, for they all match. There is no varience in specs from district to district. Some of the buses even say "North Carolina Public Schools" on the sides instead of the county.
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